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ivandollaz I'm jocccckin! Haha


You jockin ivandollaz cus the public wanna holla
And I bring shit down like Mohammed Atta
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ivandollaz wrote:
valereezy wrote:
ivandollaz I'm jocccckin! Haha


You jockin ivandollaz cus the public wanna holla
And I bring shit down like Mohammed Atta
Jock-Jockin ivandollaz!



lmaooo! u c ivan u r clever as i always say it.


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lmfao @ jayz in 7 minutes

my homie L ftw though?



it's not just he just stole from bigs.


'what do i think of success, it sucks too much stress?'
on his track feat. nas.
sounds mighty familiar.


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ivandollaz wrote:
To keep it 100; Nas, in the 14 years that he's been in the game, has not changed his shit up one bit (with the exception of Nastradamus, and that still had a couple decent tracks on it.)

Jay-Z went from Reasonable Doubt where he was on his fast tongue shit, switched up and slowed his whole flow down, went commercial, dropped the Blueprint and surged back a little, Blueprint2 was trash; Black Album, left with a bang, but how the fuck he come back with Kingdom Come?? That album was so garbage I don't even acknowledge it in Jay-Z's lineup.

American Gangster was ok.

"All I did was give you a style for you to run with
Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz' chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase.
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yo...CLEAAAAAAARLY you are a true follower of HIP HOP not just commerical radio singles and shit...not to say jay is strictly that kinda artist but lookin at his commerical stats...survey says he's not that deep

Nas on the other hand...come on man...this man is the epitome of what a true LYRICIST is...its not about beats or videos its about the MESSAGE AND STORY on TOP of all that flashy shit...besides Nas' flow is so ILLLLLL


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Nas is lyrically way better then jay-z.......

Fuck jay-z.



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hEWOO_bEEdEE wrote:
ivandollaz wrote:
To keep it 100; Nas, in the 14 years that he's been in the game, has not changed his shit up one bit (with the exception of Nastradamus, and that still had a couple decent tracks on it.)

Jay-Z went from Reasonable Doubt where he was on his fast tongue shit, switched up and slowed his whole flow down, went commercial, dropped the Blueprint and surged back a little, Blueprint2 was trash; Black Album, left with a bang, but how the fuck he come back with Kingdom Come?? That album was so garbage I don't even acknowledge it in Jay-Z's lineup.

American Gangster was ok.

"All I did was give you a style for you to run with
Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz' chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase.
"

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yo...CLEAAAAAAARLY you are a true follower of HIP HOP not just commerical radio singles and shit...not to say jay is strictly that kinda artist but lookin at his commerical stats...survey says he's not that deep

Nas on the other hand...come on man...this man is the epitome of what a true LYRICIST is...its not about beats or videos its about the MESSAGE AND STORY on TOP of all that flashy shit...besides Nas' flow is so ILLLLLL


After Nas said that there isnt much jay-z couldve came back with.


Fuck Jay-z...



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Read the Ether Lyrics, some of the hardest shit ever written



[gunshots]

[2Pac talking]
("Fuck Jay-Z")
What's up niggas, ay yo, I know you ain't talking 'bout me dog
You, what?
("Fuck Jay-Z")
You been on my dick nigga, you love my style, nigga
("Fuck Jay-Z")

[Chorus]
(I) Fuck with your soul like ether
(Will) Teach you the king you know you
(Not) "God's son" across the belly
(Lose) I prove you lost already

Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waiting
It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?
Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy
I embrace y'all with napalm
Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone
How could Nas be garbage?
Semi-autos at your cartilage
Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne
I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced

Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiian Sophie fame, kept my name in his music
Check it

[Chorus]

[talking]
Ay yo, pass me the weed, pour my ashes out on these niggas man (no doubt)
Ay, y'all faggots, y'all kneel and kiss the fk'n ring

[Chorus]

I've been fk'd over, left for dead, dissed and forgotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
Y'all some "well wishers," friendly acting, envy hiding snakes
With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take?
When these streets keep calling, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef
Started cocking up my weapon, slowly loading up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called Blueprint
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
Dick sucking lips, why not you let the late, great veteran live

[talking]
(I...will...not...lose)
"God's son" across the belly, I prove you lost already
The king is back, where my crown at?
(Ill...will) Ill Will rest in peace, let's do it niggas

[Chorus]

Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissing women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly
In '88 you was getting chased through your building
Calling my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with
Smiling in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearing Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hanging with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a loser, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class
You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the shit you need to learn though
That ether, that shit that make your soul burn slow
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Rockefeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you getting girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please
You no mustache having, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hanging with Caine, to Herb, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit
You a dick-riding faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Shawn Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dick
So little shorty's getting gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gonna come out your fat lips?
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop shit, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss



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F*CK JAYZ
NAS ALL DAY EVERYDAY =]
best rapper, best lyricist in the game
Damn skippy Nas straight killed Jay-Z on ether



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KeviNz2fly wrote:
Read the Ether Lyrics, some of the hardest shit ever written


finally i agree with you after all of the ignorant shit you said. this is some of the hardest shit he wrote because it took him 6 months to write this song. And if you're a true nas fan you will actually know what i mean by 6 months.


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ivandollaz wrote:
As for me, I grew up at the point where both were doing their thing so I pose just one question; You say Nas is garbage, why? Because he never had crazy commercial success? Because he never started shit with anybody?

Yea, Jay-Z is nasty. I'm strictly Nas and I can say that, but for you to say that Nas was garbage? Come on, you know that's a lie. Jay-Z sampled his shit, 2Pac used his concepts, Biggie decided to cut him out of the beef when Big was goin at Raekwon and Ghostface. Not to quote rhymes or anything but honestly, like dude said; "Name a rapper that I ain't influenced.."

To compare the two has always been and will always be impossible in my eyes. The same way people wanna compare Pac and Biggie. How can you compare a street poet to a witty wordsmith? That's like comparing a poet to a lawyer. Jay and Big went for wordplay, Nas and Pac went for socially conscious, deep in meaning lyrics.

Jay-Z is for the fans.

Nas is for the people.


nas is for the people ??? most of the idiots who listen to his music dont even get what he spits. peope think he's nice because he uses big words ??

"Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write
Is it Oochie Wally Wally or is it One Mic?
Is it Black Girl Lost or shorty owe you for ice?"
jay-z (blueprint 2)


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Mr.Frankenstien wrote:
KeviNz2fly wrote:
Read the Ether Lyrics, some of the hardest shit ever written


finally i agree with you after all of the ignorant shit you said. this is some of the hardest shit he wrote because it took him 6 months to write this song. And if you're a true nas fan you will actually know what i mean by 6 months.


lmao who the fuck are you? What I said isnt ignorant, you must be the ignorant one if you dont know how to read the shit. What you think Jay-Z last few albums were good or something? lmao. Typical Nas hater, finds the smallest shit to try and discredit him.



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Mr.Frankenstien wrote:
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As for me, I grew up at the point where both were doing their thing so I pose just one question; You say Nas is garbage, why? Because he never had crazy commercial success? Because he never started shit with anybody?

Yea, Jay-Z is nasty. I'm strictly Nas and I can say that, but for you to say that Nas was garbage? Come on, you know that's a lie. Jay-Z sampled his shit, 2Pac used his concepts, Biggie decided to cut him out of the beef when Big was goin at Raekwon and Ghostface. Not to quote rhymes or anything but honestly, like dude said; "Name a rapper that I ain't influenced.."

To compare the two has always been and will always be impossible in my eyes. The same way people wanna compare Pac and Biggie. How can you compare a street poet to a witty wordsmith? That's like comparing a poet to a lawyer. Jay and Big went for wordplay, Nas and Pac went for socially conscious, deep in meaning lyrics.

Jay-Z is for the fans.

Nas is for the people.


nas is for the people ??? most of the idiots who listen to his music dont even get what he spits. peope think he's nice because he uses big words ??

"Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write
Is it Oochie Wally Wally or is it One Mic?
Is it Black Girl Lost or shorty owe you for ice?"
jay-z (blueprint 2)


So...you're kinda sending mixed messages here. You're sayin these "idiots who listen to his music don't even get what he spits." (Who are "most of the idiots" you speak of? People hoppin on the Nas bandwagon?) This indicates that Nas spits on some level at the deep end of the pool, but then you go right on to quote Jay's shit, talkin about just cus Nas wears a kufi or use big words don't make him smart.

First off, the dude Jay-Z put himself in the situation to get murked cus the beef wasn't even with him. It was between Nas and Memphis Bleek since Bleek thought Nas was tryna get at him on Nastradamus when Nas said;

"Yo, I need an encore y'all you should welcome me back,
You wanna ball til you fall I can help you with that,"

So Memph figured Nas was takin shots at him since thats what he spit on the "What You Think of That" hook. That's what Jay gets for gettin on others business.



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^^
:lol: he was agreeing with what you said.

I like Nas better. .



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i still like j. he's not garbage though



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